Evan Ratliff 2024 年发起的实验性独立播客,关于人工智能。被 Eric Benson 定位为”叙事播客后崩塌时代的模板”

设定

Ratliff 创建了自己的 AI 语音克隆,让它接打电话——先与客服、骗子互动,最后甚至通过 Better Help 与一位不知情的人类心理咨询师做两次咨询。“This is a story that could only exist as a podcast.”

商业模式(成为新范式的关键)

  • 极小团队(Ratliff + producer Sophie Bridges + 妻子 Samantha Henig 协助,她创办过 NYT 音频部门)
  • 收入来源:Substack 订阅(几乎全部)
  • 第一季 break even;获 Independent Media Initiative $50K 奖金后转盈
  • 第二季与独立工作室 Kaleidoscope 合作,获更多财务缓冲,仍保持创作自主

Ratliff 的逻辑

“I knew it was going to weird. And I wanted to be as weird as possible. I didn’t want to be forced into analytic conclusions about AI, the kind of places you get pushed by people who are trying to sell your show.”

[Kaleidoscope] “are into telling a story that sounds as far from any formula as possible and helping us try to do that.”

后崩塌时代播客的轮廓

通过 Shell Game 可以看到的未来形态(narrative-podcast 当前页面有更详细的方法论):

  • 更小、更独立、更实验
  • 总产量下降
  • 没有暴富空间,break even 即胜利
  • 收入靠订阅 + 奖金 + 独立工作室伙伴

关联

引用来源

  • 2025-Narrative Podcasts Are Disappearing. What Happened_